Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir1,2

M, b. circa 1217, d. 6 November 1285
     Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir was born circa 1217 at Kingsbury, Tamworth, Warwickshire, England. He married Maud (Matilda) (?) after 1241.2 Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir married Hawise de Botterell , Countess of Lauretania circa 1272.3 Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir died on 6 November 1285 at Menai Strait, Anglesey, Wales.1,4 He died in 1286.2
     He Roger de Clifford, Justice of the Forest South of Trent Aug 1265, feudalLord of Kingsbury, Warwicks. [Burke's Peerage]

Justice of Wales.

Child of Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir and Maud (Matilda) (?)

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Douglas Richardson, 11 Jan 2003.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Annie Natalelli-Waloszek, 19 Sep 2002.
  4. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Hawise de Botterell , Countess of Lauretania1,2

F, b. circa 1240, d. 1301
     Hawise de Botterell , Countess of Lauretania was born circa 1240 at Tenbury, Worcestershire, England. She married Roger II de Clifford , Lord of Kingsbury, Sir circa 1272.1 Hawise de Botterell , Countess of Lauretania died in 1301 at Tenbury, Worcestershire, England.
     She The identity of the mysterious 'Countess ofLorraine/Lauretania/Loretta/Loreto' has been a subject of controversy inSGM. I am following the only post which gave a clear identity for her;yet it could obviously be wrong.

Citations

  1. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Annie Natalelli-Waloszek, 19 Sep 2002.
  2. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Carol Hayward (Seejay51), 17 Apr 1998.

Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir1,2,3,4,5

M, b. circa 1283, d. 7 October 1328
     Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir was buried at Grey Friars Church, Preston, Lancashire, England. He was born circa 1270.1,3,5 He was born circa 1283 at Upholland, Lancashire, England.6,2 He was the son of Robert II de Holand , Sir and Elizabeth de Salmesbury. Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir married Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley, daughter of Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir and Eleanor de Segrave, circa 1309.2 Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir died on 7 October 1328 at Boreham Wood, Hertfordshire, England; (Beheaded by partisans.)1,3,5
     He Sir Robert de Holand, 1st Lord (Baron) Holand, so created by writ ofsummons 29 July 1314 (b. c 1270; in retinue of Thomas, 2nd Earl ofLancaster (grandson of Henry III), who substantially advanced his careerand with whom he sided (though not apparently without tergiversation) inthe latter's disputes with Edward II, notably at the final battle betweenLancaster and the royal forces at Boroughbridge March 1321/2; afterBoroughbridge his lands were confiscated but were restored him on EdwardIII's coming to the throne; knight 1307; Justice of Chester intermittenly1307-20, Governor of Beeston Castle, Cheshire 1312; served in Scottishcampaigns 1314 and 1316; commissioner of Array of Lancaster 1316; amonghis many grants of land was the Manor of Thorpe Waterville, Northants,which he acquired 1319; he also held land in Pendleton, Lancs, from thePriory of St Thomas Stafford; decapitated 7 Oct 1328 by followers of hisold leader Lancaster, who not unnaturally resented his less thanwhole-hearted support, after being taken in Boreham Wood, Herts), son ofSir Robert de Holand, of Upholland, Lancs (son of Thurstan, son of Robertde Holand), by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of William Samlesbury.[Burke's Peerage]

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Sir Robert de Holand of Upholand, co. Lancaster, b. probably c 1270,executed in Boreham Wood 7 Oct 1328, Lord Holand, MP 1314-1321, son ofSir Robert de Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY OF HOLAND (I)

SIR ROBERT DE HOLAND, son of Sir Robert De HOLAND, of Upholland, co.Lancs (c), by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of William DE SAMLESBURY,was born probably about 1270. In 1292 his father settled upon him atenement in Pemberton and Orrell. He became a favourite official ofThomas, Earl of Lancaster and thus grew in importance and wealth. He wasa Commissioner in 1303; in 1304 had charters for free warren in hisdemesne lands of Upholland, Hale, Orrell and Markland in Pemberton, andfor a market at Hale; in 1307 a charter for free warren in Nether Kellet,and in 1315 one for lands in Dalbury. He was a Knight in 1307, and waspresent at the Dunstable Tournament of 1308/9; had licence to crenellatehis manor house of Upholland in 1308, and that at Bagworth, co.Leicester, in 1318; and in 1308 was employed by the Earl in a settlementof his manor of Melbourn, co. Derby. He was justice of Chester severaltimes between 1307 and 1320, and in 1312 was Governor of Beeston Castle,co. Chester. In 1310 he founded a college of priests in the Chapel of St.Thomas at Upholland, but eight years later altered it to a Priory ofBenedictine monks. He acquired various other manors and lands-e.g., WestDerby in 1316, and Mottram in Longdendale (by exchange) in 1318 ; and in1321 procured from the Earl a curious variation in the tenure of hishereditary manors, by which in future he and his successors were, withoutrelaxing the ancient services, to hold Upholland and the rest bydistributing for the Earl's soul each 29 December (St. Thomas the Martyr)certain charities. In September 1313 he had a safe conduct for attendingParliament at Westminster. He was summoned for military service againstthe Scots at Newcastle August 1314 and in 1316, in which latter year hewas a Commissioner of Array in Lancashire, and was called on to attendmusters 1317-19. He was summoned to Parliament from 29 July (1314) to 15May 1321, by writs directed Roberto de Holand, whereby he is held to havebecome LORD HOLAND. He took sides with his patron the Earl of Lancasterin his various contentions with the King, being pardoned in 1313 forcomplicity in the death of Piers de Gavaston; in 1315 he assisted insuppressing the rising of Adam Banastre in Lancashire and in 1318 wasagain pardoned for adherence to the Earl. In the Earl's final rising, inFebruary and March 1321/2, he is said to have played a cowardly ortreacherous part. On the Earl's flight northward, before the battle ofBoroughbridge, he surrendered to the King at Derby, and was sent to DoverCastle. He appears, however, to have fought at Boroughbridge,surrendering after the battle and was certainly treated as a rebel, allhis lands being taken into the King's hand. He was imprisoned in variousplaces. At the accession of Edward III he petitioned for the restitutionof his lands, and this was granted to him on 23 December 1327. On 7October 1328 he was captured in Boreham Wood, Elstree, Herts, by someadherents of his patron, Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, who, for histreachery, cut off his head [g].

He married, about 1311, certainly before August 1314, Maud, daughter andcoheir of Alan (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE, with whom he acquired extensiveestates, including the manor of Brackley, Northants. He died asaforesaid, 7 October 1328, and is said to have been buried in the GreyFriars' Church at Preston, Lancs, to which he had been a benefactor. Atthe Queen's request provision was made for the wife and children whilehis lands were in the King's hand. His widow, who was going on apilgrimage to Santiago in 1336, died 31 May 1349, and was buried atBrackley. [Complete Peerage VI:528-31, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(c) This Sir Robert was son of Thurston, son of Robert de Holand. He m.before 1276, when he and his wife were involved in a suit aboutSalmesbury. The date of his death is uncertain, probably about 1300. Hiswidow was living 1311.

[g] They sent his head to Henry, Earl of Lancaster, at Waltham Cross bySir Thomas Wytherand and others.

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That this family was of great antiquity in the county of Lancaster isevident from the register of Cokersand Abbey, to which religious housesome of its members were benefactors in King John's time. The firstperson of the name of any note was Robert de Holand, who was in the warsof Scotland, 31st Edward I [1303] and who owed his advancement to hisbecoming secretary to Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, for previously he hadbeen but a 'poor knight.' In the 1st Edward II [1307], he obtained largeterritorial grants from the crown, viz., the manors of Melburne, Newton,Osmundeston, Swarkeston, Chelardeston, Normanton, and Wybeleston, in thecounty of Derby, and the same year had a military summons to marchagainst the Scots. In the 8th Edward II [1315], he was first summoned toparliament as a baron; and in the 10th and 12th, he was again in the warsof Scotland, in which latter year he had license to make a castle of hismanor house of Bagworth, co. Leicester. Upon the insurrection of his oldmaster, Thomas, Earl of Lancaster (15th Edward II), his lordship promisedthat nobleman, to whom he owed his first rise in the world, all the aidin his power, but failing to fulfill his engagement, Lancaster was forcedto fly northwards and was finally taken prisoner at Boroughbridge, whenLord Holand rendered himself to the king at Derby and was sent prisonerto Dover Castle. For this duplicity he became so odious to the peoplethat, being afterwards made prisoner a second time, in a wood near HenleyPark, toward Windsor, he was beheaded on the nones of October, anno 1328,and his head sent to Henry, Earl of Lancaster, then at Waltham Cross, co.Essex, by Sir Thomas Wyther and some other private friends.

His lordship m. Maud, one of the daus. and co-heirs of Alan le Zouch, ofAshby, and had issue, Robert, Thomas, Alan, Otho, Jane, and Mary. Robert,Lord Holand, was s. by his eldest son, Sir Robert Holand, 2nd baron. [SirBernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd.,London, 1883, pp. 278-9, Holand, Barons Holand]

Child of Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir and Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-6.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, IV:144.
  5. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VI:528-31.
  6. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90a-6.

Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley1,2,3,4

F, b. circa 1289, d. 31 May 1349
     Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley was born circa 1289 at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England.1,2,3 She was the daughter of Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir and Eleanor de Segrave. Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley married Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir, son of Robert II de Holand , Sir and Elizabeth de Salmesbury, circa 1309.2 Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley died on 31 May 1349 at Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.1,3,4
     She Maud la Zouche; b. c 1290; m. by 1314 Sir Robert de Holand, 1st Lord(Baron) Holand, so created by writ of summons 29 July 1314 (b. c 1270; inretinue of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Lancaster (grandson of Henry III), whosubstantially advanced his career and with whom he sided (though notapparently without tergiversation) in the latter's disputes with EdwardII, notably at the final battle between Lancaster and the royal forces atBoroughbridge March 1321/2; after Boroughbridge his lands wereconfiscated but were restored him on Edward III's coming to the throne;knight 1307; Justice of Chester intermittenly 1307-20, Governor ofBeeston Castle, Cheshire 1312; served in Scottish campaigns 1314 and1316; commissioner of Array of Lancaster 1316; among his many grants ofland was the Manor of Thorpe Waterville, Northants, which he acquired1319; he also held land in Pendleton, Lancs, from the Priory of St ThomasStafford; decapitated 7 Oct 1328 by followers of his old leaderLancaster, who not unnaturally resented his less than whole-heartedsupport, after being taken in Boreham Wood, Herts), son of Sir Robert deHoland, of Upholland, Lancs (son of Thurstan, son of Robert de Holand),by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of William Samlesbury, and d. 31 May1349. [Burke's Peerage]

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Maud la Zouche, age 24 in 1314, b. c 1290, d. 31 May 1349; m. c 1311 SirRobert de Holand of Upholand, co. Lancaster, b. probably c 1270, executedin Boreham Wood 7 Oct 1328, Lord Holand, MP 1314-1321, son of Sir Robertde Holand and Elizabeth de Samlesbury. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [Robert de Holand] married, about 1311, certainly before August 1314,Maud, daughter and coheir of Alan (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE, with whom heacquired extensive estates, including the manor of Brackley, Northants.He died as aforesaid, 7 October 1328, and is said to have been buried inthe Grey Friars' Church at Preston, Lancs, to which he had been abenefactor. At the Queen's request provision was made for the wife andchildren while his lands were in the King's hand. His widow, who wasgoing on a pilgrimage to Santiago in 1336, died 31 May 1349, and wasburied at Brackley. [Complete Peerage VI:528-31, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]
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Maud m. Robert, Lord Holland. Their great-granddau. and heir-general,Maud Holland, m. 1373, John Lovel, Lord Lovel, of Tichmersh. [Sir BernardBurke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke'sPeerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 599, Zouche, Baron Zouche, of Ashby, co.Leicester]

Child of Maud la Zouche , Heiress of Brackley and Robert III 1st Baron de Holand KG, Sir

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-6.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VI:528-31.

Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir1,2,3

M, b. 9 October 1267, d. 25 March 1314
     Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir was born on 9 October 1267 at North Molton, Devonshire, England.1,3 He was the son of Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby and Ela de Longespee. Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir married Eleanor de Segrave, daughter of Nicholas 1st Baron de Segrave , Sir and Maud de Lucy, circa 1287.4,5 Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir died on 25 March 1314 at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, at age 46.1,3
     He was Governor of Rockingham Castle. He Alan la Zouche, 1st Lord (Baron) (La) Zouche, so created by writ ofsummons to Parliament 6 Feb 1298/9; b. 9 Oct 1267; undertook militaryservice in Flanders, Gascony and Scotland; fought in the vanguard atBattle of Falkirk (Edward I's victory over William Wallace) 1298;Constable of Rockingham Castle and Keeper of the forests between Oxfordand Stamford bridges Feb 1311/2-Feb 1313/4; m. (?)Eleanor, daughter of1st Lord (Baron) Segrave, and dspm just prior to 25 March 1314, whenaccording to later doctrine such hereditary honour as was created by thewrit of Feb 1298/9 fell into abeyance between his daughters and coheirs.[Burke's Peerage]

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Alan la Zouche, b. North Molton 9 Oct 1267, d. shortly bef. 25 Mar1313/4, Lord Zouche of Ashby 1299-1314, Governor of Rockingham Castle andSteward of Rockingham's Forest; probably m. Eleanor, daughter of NicholasSegrave. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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This feudal lord, b. 1267, having distinguished himself in the wars ofGascony and Scotland, temp. Edward I, was summoned to parliament by thatmonarch as a Baron, 26 January, 1297, and he had regular summonses fromthat period until 7th Edward II, 26 November 1313. In the 5th Edward II[1312], his lordship was constituted governor of Buckingham Castle, inNorthamptonshire, and steward of Rockingham Forest. He d. in 1314,leaving by Eleanor, his wife, dau. of Nicholas de Segrave, three daus.,his co-heirs, viz., I. Ellen, m. 1st Nicholas St. Maur, and 2ndly, Alande Charlton; Maud Zouche, m. Robert, Lord Holland; Elizabeth, a nun atBrewood, co. Stafford. Amongst these three daus. and co-heirs of Alan leZouche, a partition was made in the 8th Edward II [1315] of theirfather's lands, excepting the manor of Ashby-de-la-Zouche which thedeceased lord gave to his kinsman, William de Mortimer, who thereuponassumed the surname Zouche. At the decease of Lord Zouche, the Barony ofZouche of Ashby fell into abeyance between his daus., as it stillcontinues with their representatives. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant,Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London,1883, p. 598-9, Zouche, Baron Zouche, of Ashby, co. Leicester]

Child of Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir and Eleanor de Segrave

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-5.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  4. [S242] Alice Beard, GEDCOM 'Royals of Europe' imported 7 NOV 1999 by Linda Joyce Neely.
  5. [S246] Unknown author, Source #11.

Eleanor de Segrave1,2,3

F, b. 1270, d. 1314
     Eleanor de Segrave was born in 1270 at Seagrave, Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire, England. She was the daughter of Nicholas 1st Baron de Segrave , Sir and Maud de Lucy. Eleanor de Segrave married Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir, son of Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby and Ela de Longespee, circa 1287.4,5 Eleanor de Segrave died in 1314.

Child of Eleanor de Segrave and Alan 1st Baron la Zouche , of Ashby, Sir

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-5.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  4. [S242] Alice Beard, GEDCOM 'Royals of Europe' imported 7 NOV 1999 by Linda Joyce Neely.
  5. [S246] Unknown author, Source #11.

Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby1,2

M, b. between 1240 and 1242, d. 15 October 1285
     Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby was born between 1240 and 1242 at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England.3,4 He was the son of Alan la Zouche Lord of Ashby and Ellen (Helen) (Elena) de Quincy. Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby married Ela de Longespee before 19 July 1267 at Northamptonshire, England.1 Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby died on 15 October 1285 at Brockley, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England.3,4
     He Roger la Zouche; b. c 1240-42; m. by 1267 Ela (d. by 19 July 1276),daughter of Stephen Longespee, himself son of William Longespee Earl ofSalisbury (illegitimate son of Henry II), and d. just prior to 15 Oct1285. [Burke's Peerage]

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Sir Roger la Zouche, b. 1240-2, d. shortly bef. 15 Oct 1285, Lord Zoucheof Ashby and Brockley; m. bef. 1267 Ela Longespee. [Magna ChartaSureties]

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Roger le Zouche m. Ela, dau. and co-heir of Stephen de Longespée, 2nd sonof William, Earl of Salisbury, and dying in 1285, was s. by his son, Alanla Zouche. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and ExtinctPeerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 598, Zouche, BaronZouche, of Ashby, co. Leicester]

Child of Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby and Ela de Longespee

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-4, 144-3.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-4.
  4. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Ela de Longespee1,2,3

F, b. circa 1246, d. before 19 July 1276
     Ela de Longespee was born circa 1246 at Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. She married Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby, son of Alan la Zouche Lord of Ashby and Ellen (Helen) (Elena) de Quincy, before 19 July 1267 at Northamptonshire, England.1 Ela de Longespee died before 19 July 1276.3
     She Ela (d. by 19 July 1276), daughter of Stephen Longespee, himself son ofWilliam Longespee Earl of Salisbury (illegitimate son of Henry II).[Burke's Peerage]

Child of Ela de Longespee and Roger la Zouche Lord of Ashby

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 90-4, 144-3.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Hugh 1st Baron de Audley , of Stratton, Sir1,2

M, b. circa 1267, d. BEF MAR 1325/26
     Hugh 1st Baron de Audley , of Stratton, Sir died BEF MAR 1325/26 at Wallingford Castle, Berkshire, England.1 He was born circa 1267 at Stratton Audley, Oxfordshire, England.1 He was the son of James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop and Ela de Longespee. Hugh 1st Baron de Audley , of Stratton, Sir married Isolde (Iseult) de Mortimer, daughter of Hugh de Mortimer , of Chelmarsh and Agatha de Ferrers, circa 1288 at of, Wigmore, Herefordshire, England.3
     Hugh 1st Baron de Audley , of Stratton, Sir was also known as Hugh de Aldithley de Audley. He Hugh de Alditheley or Audley, brother of Nicholas, Lord Audley ofHeleigh, was summoned to parliament as 'Hugh de Audley, Seniori' on 15May, 1321, 14th Edward II. His lordship had been engaged during the reignof Edward I in the king's service and was called 'Senior' to distinguishhim from his son. Being concerned in the insurrection of Thomas, Earl ofLancaster, 15th Edward II [1322], the baron was committed a closeprisoner to Wallingford Castle but making his peace with the king heobtained his release and suffered nothing further. His lordship sat inthe parliament on the 11th [1318] and 14th [1321] of Edward II. He m.Isolda, widow of Walter Balim, and left two sons, by the elder of whom,Hugh, he was succeeded. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited,and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 17, Audley,or de Aldithley, Barons Audley, and Subsequently Earl of Gloucester]

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Hugh, whose son, Hugh Audley, Earl of Gloucester, m. Margaret, daughterand co-heir of Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester, by Lady Joaneplantagenet, daughter of Edward I, and by her had Margaret, only daughterand heir, m. to Ralph, Lord Stafford, ancestor of the Dukes ofBucckingham and the present Baron Stafford. [John Burke, History of theCommoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. IV, R. Bentley, London,1834, p. 757, Stansfeld, of Burley Park]

Children of Hugh 1st Baron de Audley , of Stratton, Sir and Isolde (Iseult) de Mortimer

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 150-5.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VI:190.
  3. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.

James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop1,2

M, b. circa 1220, d. 11 June 1272
     James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop was born circa 1220 at Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England.3,2 He was the son of Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford and Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring. James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop married Ela de Longespee, daughter of William II Longespee , Sir and Idoine de Camville, in 1244.3,4 James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop died on 11 June 1272 at Ireland; Broke his neck.2
     James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop was also known as James de Aldithley (Audle. He James of Aldithley, 1st or 2nd son and heir, b. about 1220. Keeper ofthe castle of Newcastle-under-Lyme 30 Oct 1250. He joined in a letter ofthe Barons to the Pope in 1258. Witnessed, as one of the King's swornCouncil, the confirmation by Henry III of the Provisions of Oxford, 1258;Lord Marcher; Sheriff of Salop, and co. Staffs, 1261-2 and 1270-1;Justiciar of Ireland 1270-2. He took an active part on the King's sideagainst the Barons, being in arms for the King on the Welsh Marches in1264, and engaging in the Evesham campaign in 1265. He m. in 1244, Ela,daughter of William Longespee (who d. 1250), son and heir of Ela, suojure Countess of Salisbury, by Idoine, daughter and heir of Richard deCamville. She brought him the manors of Stratton, afterwards calledStratton Audley, and Wretchwick, Oxon, in frank marriage. He d. about 11June 1272, in Ireland, by 'breaking his neck'. Writ for his Inq.p.m. 16July 1272. His widow d. apparently shortly bef. 22 Nov 1299. Inq.p.m.1325-6. [Complete Peerage I:337-8 XIV:50]

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James de Alditheley was a great favourite of Richard, Earl of Cornwall,at whose coronation as king of Almaigne he assisted. This nobleman hadlivery of his lands in the 31st Henry III [1247], and was constituted intwo years afterwards constable of Newcastle-under-Lyne. Being one of thelords-marchers he was actively employed for some years against the Welshand was appointed governor of the castles of Salop and Bridgenorth andsheriff of the counties of Salop and Stafford. In the 47th of Henry III[1263] he was made justice of Ireland; and in the same year, upon themisunderstanding between the king and the barons regarding the provisionsof Oxford, being referred to arbitration of the monarch of France, he wasone of the noblemen who undertook for the king therein. The next year wefind him with Roger de Mortimer and the other barons-marchers givingbattle to Llewelyn, Prince of Wales, and afterwards joining the Earl ofGloucester at Evesham in rescuing the king, who had become captive to theEarl of Leicester at the battle of Lewes. In the 52nd of Henry III[1268], his lordship performed a pilgrimage to the shrine of St. James inGalicia, and the following year embarked in the Crusade. His death,occasioned by breaking his neck, occurred soon afterwards (1271). He hada dau. Joan, who m. John, son of Robert de Beauchamp, to whose child,prior to its birth, the said John then being deceased, his lordship wasappointed guardian. He had also five sons, the youngest of whom, Hugh, issupposed to have been the Hugh Alditheley who had summons to parliament15 May 1321, and whose son became Earl of Gloucester. His lordship was s.by his eldest son, James de Alditheley, who d. s. p. in 1272, and was s.by his brother, Henry, who d. without issue in 1275, and was s. by hisbrother, William, who d. without issue is 1275, was s. by his brother,Nicholas, who died in 1299. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant,Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England,1883, p. 15, Audley, Barons Audley, of Heleigh]

NOTE: John Burke, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland,Vol. IV, R. Bentley, London, 1834, p. 757, Stansfeld, of Burley Park,names two additional sons, William, Lord of Blore and Grindon, co.Stafford, and Sir Adam, surnamed FitzWolfric. He Name Suffix: [Justice Of Ches
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Child of James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop and Ela de Longespee

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 143-3, 150-5.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:337-8.
  3. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 143-3.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:338.

Ela de Longespee

F, b. circa 1228, d. before 22 November 1299
     Ela de Longespee was born circa 1228 at Stratton Audley, Oxfordshire, England. She was the daughter of William II Longespee , Sir and Idoine de Camville. Ela de Longespee married James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop, son of Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford and Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring, in 1244.1,2 Ela de Longespee died before 22 November 1299.1,2
     She He [James of Aldithley] m. in 1244, Ela, daughter of William Longespee(who d. 1250), son and heir of Ela, suo jure Countess of Salisbury, byIdoine, daughter and heir of Richard de Camville. She brought him themanors of Stratton, afterwards called Stratton Audley, and Wretchwick,Oxon, in frank marriage. He d. about 11 June 1272, in Ireland, by'breaking his neck'. Writ for his Inq.p.m. 16 July 1272. His widow d.apparently shortly bef. 22 Nov 1299. Inq.p.m. 1325-6. [Complete PeerageI:337-8 XIV:50]

Child of Ela de Longespee and James de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff of Salop

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 143-3.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:338.

William II Longespee , Sir1,2,3

M, b. circa 1207, d. between 7 February 1249 and 1250
     William II Longespee , Sir was born circa 1207 at Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. He married an unknown person in 1226.3 He died between 7 February 1249 and 1250 at Slain by Saracens at Battle of Mansura, Nile Delta, Egypt.1,3 He married an unknown person in 1254 at Of, Herefordshire, England.4
     He William de Longespee,eldest son of William, Earl of Salisbury, 'commonlycalled,' says Sir William Dugdale, 'by Matthew Paris, and most of ourother historians, Earl of Salisbury, but erroneous, for all recordswherein mention is made of his do not give him that title, but called himbarely William Longespee. Nay, there is an old chronicle who saithexpressly, that, in anno 12233 (17th Henry III), he was girt with thesword of knighthood, but not made Earl of Salisbury.' This William made apilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1240, and again in 1247, having assumedthe cross for a second pilgrimage, proceeded to Rome, and thus preferreda suit to the sovereign pontiff. 'Sir, you see that I am signed with thecross and am on my journey with the King of France to fight in thispilgrimage. My name is great and of note, viz., William Longespee, but myestate is slender, for the king of England, my kinsman and liege lord,hath bereft me of the title of earl and of that estate, but this he didjudiciously, and not in displeasure, and by the impulse of his will;therefore I do not blame him for it. Howbeit, I am necessitated to haverecourse to your holiness for favour, desiring your assistance in thisdistress. We see here (quoth he) that Earl Richard (of Cornwall) who,though he is not signed with the cross, yet, through the especial graceof your holiness, he hath got very much money from those who are signed,and therefore, I, who am signed and in want, do intreat the like favour.'The pope taking into consideration the elegance of his manner, theefficacy of his reasoning, and the comeliness of his person, conceded inpart what he desire; whereupon he received above 1,000 marks from thosewho had been so signed. In about two years after this, anno 1249, havingreceived the blessing of his noble mother, Ela, then abbess of Lacock, hecommenced his journey at the head of a company of 200 English horse and,being received with great respect by the king of France, joined thatmonarch's army. In Palestine he became subsequently pre-eminentlydistinguished and fell, in 1250, in a great conflict with the Saracens,near Damieta, having previously kill above 100 of the enemy with his ownhand. It was reported that, the bight before the battle, his mother Ela,the abbess, saw in a vision the heavens open and her son armed at allparts (whose shield she well knew), received with joy by the angels.Remembering the occurrence when the news of his death reached her in sixmonths after, she held up her hands, and, with a cheerful countenance,said, 'I, thy handmaid, give thanks to thee, O Lord, that out of mysinful flesh thou hast caused such a champion against thine enemies to beborn.' It was also said that, in 1252, when messengers were sent to theSoldan of Babylon for redemption of those who had been taken prisoner, hethus addressed them -- 'I marvel at you, Christians, who reverence thebones of the dead, why you inquire not for those of the renowned andright noble William Longespee, because there be many things reported ofthem (whether fabulous or not I cannot say), viz., that, in the dark ofthe night there have been appearances at his tomb, and that to some, whocalled upon his God, many things were bestowed from Heaven. For whichcause, and in regard of his great worth and nobility of birth, we havecaused his body to be here intombed.' Whereupon the messenger desiringit, the remains were delivered to them by the Soldan, and thence conveyedto Acre where they were buried in the church of St. Cross. This eminentand heroic personage m. Idonea, dau. and heir of Richard de Camville, andhad issue, William de Longespee, his son and heir. [Sir Bernard Burke,Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd.,London, England, 1883, p. 168, d'Evereux, Earls of Salisbury]

Child of William II Longespee , Sir and Idoine de Camville

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 143-2.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 119.
  4. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.

Idoine de Camville1,2,3

F, b. circa 1208, d. before 21 September 1252
     Idoine de Camville was born circa 1208 at Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England. She married an unknown person in June 1226.4,5 She died before 21 September 1252.1,3
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Child of Idoine de Camville and William II Longespee , Sir

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 143-2.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 119.
  4. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.
  5. [S246] Unknown author, Source #11.

Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford1,2,3

M, b. circa 1175, d. before 19 November 1246
     Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford was born circa 1175 at Audley, Staffordshire, England.4 He married Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring in 1217.4 Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford died before 19 November 1246 at Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England.4
     He Henry of Aldithley, 2nd son of Adam of Aldithley, (who d. bet. 1203 and1211) by Emma, daughter of Ralf fitz Orm, of Darlaston, Staffs; was b.about 1175; with his father, he was witness to a charter of Harvey Bagotin 1194. He bought large estates from Eleanor Malbank in 1214; in 1227he acquired the manors of Edgmund and Newport, and in 1230 that of Ford,all in Salop, and all held by him direct from the Crown, though not bymilitary or knight service. He was Under Sheriff of Salop and co.Stafford 1217-20, and Sheriff 1227-32; was in command of the WelshMarches 1223-46. He built the castle of Heligh, co. Stafford; and RedCastle, Salop. In 1223 he founded Hulton Abbey. He was appointedCustodian of Chester and Beeston Castle, 22 June 1237, on the extinctionof the the earldom of Chester. He m. in 1217, Bertred, daughter of RalfMainwaring, Seneschal of Chester. He d. in 1246, shortly bef. Nov. Hiswidow was living in 1249. She was buried in Hulton Abbey. [CompletePeerage I:337 XIV:50]

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'That this family of Alditheley, vulgarly called Audley,' says Dugdale,'came to be great and eminent, the ensuing discourse will sufficientlymanifest: but that the rise thereof was no higher than King John's time,and that the first who assumed this surname was a branch of that ancientand noble family of Verdon, whose chief seat was at Alton Castle in thenorthern part of Staffordshire, I am very inclined to believe; partly byreason that Henry had the inheritance of Alditheley given him by Nicholasde Verdon, who d. in the 16th Henry III [1232], or near that time; andpartly for that he bore for his arms the same ordinary as Vernon did. ..so that probably the ancestor of this Henry first seated himself atAlditheley: for that there hath been an ancient mansion there, the largemoat, northwards from the parish church there (somewhat less than afurlong, and upon the chief part of a fair ascent), do sufficientlymanifest.'

Henry de Alditheley, to whom Dugdale alludes above, being in great favourwith Ranulph, Earl of Chester and Lincoln (the most powerful subject ofEngland in his time), obtained from that nobleman a grant of Newhall inCheshire with manors in Staffordshire and other parts--and for hisadhesion to King John, in that monarch's struggle with theinsurrectionary barons, a royal grant of the lordship of Storton inWarwickshire, part of the possessions of Roger de Summerville. In thefirst four years of King Henry III [1216-1220], he executed the office ofsheriff for the counties of Salop and Stafford as deputy for his patron,the great Earl Ranulph. In the 10th of Henry III [1226], this Henry deAlditheley was appointed governor of the castles of Carmarthen andCardigan and made sheriff the next year of the counties of Salop andStafford and constable of the castles of Salop and Bridgenorth, whichsheriffalty he held for five years. Upon his retirement from office, hehad a confirmation of all such lands whereof he was then possessed aswell those granted to him by Ranulph, Earl of Chester, and Nicholas deVerdon, as those in Ireland given him by Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster,whose constable he was in that province. He subsequently obtained diversother territorial grants from the crown, but, notwithstanding, whenRichard Mareschall, Earl of Pembroke, rebelled and made an incursion intoWales, the king, Henry III, thought it prudent to secure the persons ofthis Henry and all the other barons-marchers. He was afterwards, however,constituted governor of Shrewsbury in place of John de Lacy, Earl ofLincoln, and, on the death of John, Earl of Chester, governor of thecastle of Chester, and also that of Beeston, then called the 'Castle onthe Rock,' and soon after made governor of Newcastle-under-Lyne. Thispowerful feudal baron m. Bertred, dau. of Ralph de Meisnil-warin, ofCheshire, and had a son, James, and a dau., Emme, who m. Griffith apMadoc, Lord of Bromefield, a person of great power in Wales. He d. in1236, having founded and endowed the Abbey of Hilton near to his castleat Heleigh, in Staffordshire, for Cistercian monks, and was s. by hisson, James de Alditheley. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeitedand Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p.15, Audley, Barons Audley, of Heleigh] Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford was also known as Henry de Alditheley.

Child of Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford and Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring

Citations

  1. [S252] Unknown author, The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States, by Gary Boyd Roberts, 1993, 407.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 88.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:337, IX:126.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:337.

Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring1,2,3

F, b. circa 1196, d. after 1249
     Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring was born circa 1196 at Mainwaring, Bersted, Sussex, England. She was born in 1197 at Chestershire, England.4 She married Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford in 1217.3 Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring died after 1249 at Hulton Abbey, Staffordshire, England.3
     She He [Henry of Aldithley] m. in 1217, Bertred, daughter of Ralf Mainwaring,Seneschal of Chester. He d. in 1246, shortly bef. Nov. His widow wasliving in 1249. She was buried in Hulton Abbey. [Complete Peerage I:337XIV:50]

Child of Bertrade (Bertred) de Mainwaring and Henry de Audley , of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford

Citations

  1. [S252] Unknown author, The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States, by Gary Boyd Roberts, 1993, 407.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 88.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:337.
  4. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.

Catherine de Roet1,2,3

F, b. 25 November 1350, d. 10 May 1403
     Catherine de Roet was buried at Lincoln Cathedral, Lincolnshire, England. She was born on 25 November 1350 at Somme, Picardy, France.2 She was the daughter of Payne de Roet and Catherine d' Avesnes , of Hainault. Catherine de Roet married John of Gaunt PLANTAGENET, son of Edward III Plantagenet King of England and Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault, between 13 January 1396 and 1397 at Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.2 Catherine de Roet died on 10 May 1403 at Lincoln Cathedral, Lincolnshire, England, at age 52.4
     She Catherine was a long time mistress, which explains the birth of herchildren during the former wife's marriage. John and Catherine wereeventually married. Catherine de Roet was also known as Katherine of Guyenne de Rouet.

Children of Catherine de Roet and John of Gaunt PLANTAGENET

Citations

  1. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 45-7.
  4. [S237] LAYNEJAYNE <, LAYNEJAYNE@@aol.com>, solidgold4 <, solidgold4@@aol.com>, jercty31 < and jercty31@@aol.com>, New England Families to Royalty GEDCOM inported 7 NOV 1999 by LindaJoyce Neely.

Blanche of Lancaster1

F, b. 25 March 1345, d. 30 September 1369
     Blanche of Lancaster was born on 25 March 1345 at Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire, Wales.2 She married John of Gaunt PLANTAGENET, son of Edward III Plantagenet King of England and Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault, on 19 May 1359 at Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England.1 Blanche of Lancaster died on 30 September 1369 at Bolingbroke Castle, Lincolnshire, England, at age 24.1

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Brad Verity, 1 Sep 2003.

Constance de Castile1

F, b. circa 1354, d. between 24 March 1393 and 1394
     Constance de Castile was born circa 1354 at Castro Kerez, Castile, Spain. She married John of Gaunt PLANTAGENET, son of Edward III Plantagenet King of England and Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault, in June 1371.1 Constance de Castile died between 24 March 1393 and 1394 at Leicester Castle, London, Middlesex, England.1

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.

Payne de Roet1,2,3

M, b. circa 1315, d. 1380
     Payne de Roet was born circa 1315 at Guignies, Hainault, Belgium. He was the son of Payne de Roet of Guignies. Payne de Roet was born circa 1320 at Hainault, Belgium.4 He married Catherine d' Avesnes , of Hainault, daughter of William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault and Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault, circa 1347.5 Payne de Roet died in 1380 at Ghent, Hainault, Belgium.
     Payne de Roet was also known as Sir.1,2,3 He A knight in Queen Philippa's (Edward III's wife) Household.

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The following is a post to SGM, 4 Jan 2004, by Peter de Loriol:

From: PDeloriol AT aol.com (PDeloriol AT aol.com)
Subject: DE ROE(L)T...
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2004-01-04 09:57:45 PST

Someone asked about the ancestry of sir Paon/Pagan/Payen deRuet/Roet/Roelt.

A recent article in the Foundations Magazine of the Foundation forMedieval Genealogy suggests that this unknown Knight was a member of theROEULX family of the Hainaut where the name is also spelt as Ruet/Roet/Ruelt - it points to a certain Gilles de Roeulx as the Pagan of Englishhistory...there is however no definite proof of his identity but thecircumstantial proof seems quite compelling according to the reviewer.

regards

Peter de Loriol

Note: I already have Payne as son of another Payne Roet, based on variouspeople on the internet. I find a Gilles-Rigaud de Roeulx on Leo van dePas' data files based on information in ES. Since the senior male lineof Gille's elder brother Eustace appears to die out with Eustace in 1288(Eustace had a son Eustace who died before him about Dec 1287, and adaughter Marie who was his heir), I think the Roet descent indicated inthe SGM post above is probably through Gilles-Rigaud. Therefore I ammaking Payne Roet, senior, a son of that Gilles-Rigaud (at least it ispretty close to the ancestry indicated above).

Child of Payne de Roet and Catherine d' Avesnes , of Hainault

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 161-17.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Peter de Loriol, 4 Jan 2004.
  4. [S237] LAYNEJAYNE <, LAYNEJAYNE@@aol.com>, solidgold4 <, solidgold4@@aol.com>, jercty31 < and jercty31@@aol.com>, New England Families to Royalty GEDCOM inported 7 NOV 1999 by LindaJoyce Neely.
  5. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.

Edward III Plantagenet King of England1,2

M, b. 13 November 1312, d. 21 June 1377
     Edward III Plantagenet King of England was born on 13 November 1312 at Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England.3 He was the son of Edward II , Plantagenet Of Caernarvon and Isabella Capet Queen of England. Edward III Plantagenet King of England married Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault, daughter of William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault and Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault, between 24 January 1327 and 1328 at York, East Riding Yorkshire, England.3 Edward III Plantagenet King of England married Alice Perrers after 1369. Edward III Plantagenet King of England died on 21 June 1377 at Shene Palace, Richmond, Surrey, England, at age 64.3 He was buried at Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England.
     He was King of England. Edward III Plantagenet King of England was also known as 13th Earl of Chester , Edward III King of England. He 25 Jan 1327. Accedes to the throne after his father Edward II is deposedby his Queen Isabella and Roger de Mortimer.

1330. Takes power after 3 years of government by his mother, Isabella,and Roger de Mortimer. Executes Roger.

1332. Parliament is divided into Lords and Commons.

1337. Start of 100 years war with France.

1347. Edward captures Calais, France.

1348-1350. Plague kills 1/3 of population of Europe.

Edward III, byname EDWARD OF WINDSOR (b. Nov. 13, 1312, Windsor,Berkshire, Eng.--d. June 21, 1377, Sheen, Surrey), king of England from1327 to 1377, who led England into the Hundred Years' War with France.The descendants of his seven sons and five daughters contested the thronefor generations, climaxing in the Wars of the Roses (1455-85).

Early years

The eldest son of Edward II and Isabella of France, Edward III wassummoned to Parliament as earl of Chester (1320) and was made duke ofAquitaine (1325), but, contrary to tradition, he never received the titleof prince of Wales.

Edward III grew up amid struggles between his father and a number ofbarons who were attempting to limit the king's power and to strengthentheir own role in governing England. His mother, repelled by herhusband's treatment of the nobles and disaffected by the confiscation ofher English estates by his supporters, played an important role in thisconflict. In 1325 she left England to return to France to intervene inthe dispute between her brother, Charles IV of France, and her husbandover the latter's French possessions, Guyenne, Gascony, and Ponthieu. Shewas successful; the land was secured for England on condition that theEnglish king pay homage to Charles. This was performed on the King'sbehalf by his young son.

The heir apparent was secure at his mother's side. With Roger Mortimer,an influential baron who had escaped to France in 1323 and had become herlover, Isabella now began preparations to invade England to depose herhusband. To raise funds for this enterprise, Edward III was betrothed toPhilippa, daughter of William, count of Hainaut and Holland.

Within five months of their invasion of England, the Queen and thenobles, who had much popular support, overpowered the King's forces.Edward II, charged with incompetence and breaking his coronation oath,was forced to resign, and on Jan. 29, 1327, Edward III, aged 15, wascrowned king of England.

During the next four years Isabella and Mortimer governed in his name,though nominally his guardian was Henry, earl of Lancaster. In the summerof 1327 he took part in an abortive campaign against the Scots, whichresulted in the Treaty of Northampton (1328), making Scotland anindependent realm. Edward was deeply troubled by the settlement andsigned it only after much persuasion by Isabella and Mortimer. He marriedPhilippa at York on Jan. 24, 1328. Soon afterward, Edward made asuccessful effort to throw off his degrading dependence on his mother andMortimer. While a council was being held at Nottingham, he entered thecastle by night, through a subterranean passage, took Mortimer prisoner,and had him executed (November 1330). Edward had discreetly ignored hismother's liaison with Mortimer and treated her with every respect, buther political influence was at an end.

Edward III now began to rule as well as to reign. Young, ardent, andactive, he sought to remake England into the powerful nation it had beenunder Edward I. He still resented the concession of independence made toScotland by the Treaty of Northampton; and the death of Robert I, theBruce, king of Scotland, in 1329 gave him a chance of retrieving hisposition. The new king of Scots, his brother-in-law, David II, was a mereboy, and Edward took advantage of his weakness to aid the Scottish baronswho had been exiled by Bruce to place their leader, Edward Balliol, onthe Scottish throne. David II fled to France, but Balliol was despised asa puppet of the English king, and David returned in 1341.

Hundred Years' War

During the 1330s England gradually drifted into a state of hostility withFrance, for which the most obvious reason was the dispute over Englishrule in Gascony. Contributory causes were France's new king Philip VI'ssupport of the Scots, Edward's alliance with the Flemish cities--then onbad terms with their French overlord--and the revival, in 1337, ofEdward's claim, first made in 1328, to the French crown. Edward twiceattempted to invade France from the north (1339, 1340), but the onlyresult of his campaigns was to reduce him to bankruptcy. In January 1340he assumed the title of king of France. At first he may have done this togratify the Flemings, whose scruples in fighting the French kingdisappeared when they persuaded themselves that Edward was the rightfulking of France. But his pretensions to the French crown gradually becamemore important, and the persistence with which he and his successorsurged them made stable peace impossible for more than a century. This wasthe struggle famous in history as the Hundred Years' War. Until 1801every English king also called himself king of France.

Edward was present in person at the great naval battle off the Flemishcity of Sluis in June 1340, in which he all but destroyed the Frenchnavy. Despite this victory his resources were exhausted by his landcampaign, and he was forced to make a truce (which was broken two yearslater) and return to England. During the years after 1342 he spent muchtime and money in rebuilding Windsor Castle and instituting the Order ofthe Garter, which became Britain's highest order of knighthood. A newphase of the French war began when Edward landed in Normandy in July1346, accompanied by his eldest son, Prince Edward, later known as theBlack Prince (born 1330). At first the King showed some lack of strategicpurpose, engaging in little more than a large-scale plundering raid tothe gates of Paris. The campaign was made memorable by his decisivevictory over the French at Crécy in Ponthieu (August 26), where hescattered the army with which Philip VI sought to cut off his retreat tothe northeast. Edward laid siege to the French port of Calais inSeptember 1346 and received its surrender in August 1347. Other victoriesin Gascony and Brittany, and the defeat and capture of David II atNeville's Cross near Durham (October 1346), gave further proof ofEdward's power, but Calais was to be his only lasting conquest. Heejected most of its French inhabitants, colonizing the town withEnglishmen and establishing there a base from which to conduct furtherinvasions of France. Nevertheless, in the midst of his successes, want ofmoney forced him to make a new truce in September 1347.

Edward returned to England in October 1347. He celebrated his triumph bya series of splendid tournaments. In 1348 he rejected an offer to becomeHoly Roman emperor. In the same year the bubonic plague known as theBlack Death first appeared in England and raged until the end of 1349.Its horrors hardly checked the magnificent revels of Edward's court, andneither the plague nor the truce stayed the slow course of the Frenchwar, though the fighting was indecisive and on a small scale. Edward'smartial exploits during the next years were those of a gallant knightrather than of a responsible general. Although the English House ofCommons was now weary of the war, efforts to make peace came to nothing,and large-scale operations began again in 1355, when Edward led anunsuccessful raid out of Calais. He harried the Lothians, part ofsoutheastern Scotland, in the expedition famous as the Burned Candlemas(January and February 1356), and in the same year he received a formalsurrender of the Kingdom of Scotland from Balliol. His exploits were,however, eclipsed by those of his son Edward, whose victory at Poitiers(Sept. 19, 1356), resulting in the capture of the French king, John II(who had succeeded Philip VI in 1350), forced the French to accept a newtruce. Edward entertained his captive magnificently but forced him by theTreaty of London (1359) to surrender so much territory that the agreementwas repudiated in France. In an effort to compel acceptance, Edwardlanded at Calais (October 28) and besieged Reims, where he planned to becrowned king of France. The strenuous resistance of the citizensfrustrated this scheme, and Edward marched into Burgundy, eventuallyreturning toward Paris. After this unsuccessful campaign he was glad toconclude preliminaries of peace at Brittany (May 8, 1360). This treaty,less onerous to France than that of London, took its final form in theTreaty of Calais, ratified by both kings (October 1360). By it, Edwardrenounced his claim to the French crown in return for the whole ofAquitaine, a rich area in southwestern France.

The years of decline: 1360-77

The Treaty of Calais did not bring rest or prosperity to either Englandor France. Fresh visitations of the Black Death in England in 1361 and1369 intensified social and economic disturbances, and desperate but notvery successful efforts were made to enforce the Statute of Labourers(1351), which was intended to maintain prices and wages as they had beenbefore the pestilence. Other famous laws enacted during the 1350s hadbeen the Statutes of Provisors (1351) and Praemunire (1353), whichreflected popular hostility against foreign clergy. These measures werefrequently reenacted, and Edward formally repudiated (1366) the feudalsupremacy over England still claimed by the papacy.

When the French king Charles V, son of John II, repudiated the Treaty ofCalais, Edward resumed the title of king of France, but he showed littleof his former vigour in meeting this new trouble, leaving most of thefighting and the administration of his foreign territories to his sonsEdward and John of Gaunt, duke of Lancaster. While they were strugglingwith little success against the rising tide of French national feeling,Edward's want of money made him a willing participant in the attack onthe wealth and privileges of the church. Meanwhile, Aquitaine wasgradually lost, Prince Edward returned to England in broken health(1371), and John of Gaunt's march through France from Calais to Bordeaux(1373) achieved nothing. Edward's final attempt to lead an army abroadhimself (1372) was frustrated when contrary winds prevented his landinghis troops in France. In 1375 he was glad to make a truce, which lasteduntil his death. By it, the only important possessions remaining inEnglish hands were Calais, Bordeaux, Bayonne, and Brest.

Edward was now sinking into his dotage. After the death of Queen Philippain 1369 he fell entirely under the influence of his greedy mistress,Alice Perrers, while Prince Edward and John of Gaunt became the leadersof sharply divided parties in the royal court and council. John of Gauntreturned to England in April 1374 and with the help of Alice Perrersobtained the chief influence with his father, but his administration wasneither honourable nor successful. At the famous so-called GoodParliament of 1376 popular indignation against John of Gaunt's rulingparty came at last to a head. Alice Perrers was removed and some ofGaunt's followers were impeached. Before the Parliament had concluded itsbusiness, however, the death of Prince Edward (June 8, 1376) robbed theCommons of its strongest support. John of Gaunt regained power, and theacts of the Good Parliament had been reversed when Edward III died.

Edward's character

Edward III possessed extraordinary vigour and energy of temperament; hewas an admirable tactician and a consummate knight. His court was themost brilliant in contemporary Europe, and he was himself well fitted tobe the head of the gallant knights who obtained fame in the French wars.Though his main ambition was military glory, he was not a bad ruler ofEngland, being liberal, kindly, good-tempered, and easy of access. Hisneed to obtain supplies for carrying on the French wars made himfavourable to his subjects' petitions and contributed to the growingstrength of Parliament. His weak points were his wanton breaches of goodfaith, his extravagance, his frivolity, and his self-indulgence. Hisambition ultimately transcended his resources, and before he died evenhis subjects had sensed his failure. [Encyclopædia Britannica CD '97,EDWARD III]

Children of Edward III Plantagenet King of England and Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 27-8, 161-16.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  3. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 161-16.

Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault1,2,3

F, b. 24 June 1311, d. 15 August 1369
     Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault was buried at Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England. She was born on 24 June 1311 at Mons, Hainault, Belgium.3 She was the daughter of William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault and Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault. Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault married Edward III Plantagenet King of England, son of Edward II , Plantagenet Of Caernarvon and Isabella Capet Queen of England, between 24 January 1327 and 1328 at York, East Riding Yorkshire, England.2 Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault died on 15 August 1369 at Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England, at age 58.3
     Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault was also known as Philippa of Hainault.

Children of Philippa d' Avesnes , of Hainault and Edward III Plantagenet King of England

Citations

  1. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  2. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 161-16.
  3. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.

Alice Perrers1

F, b. 1348, d. before 25 November 1400
     Alice Perrers was born in 1348 at England. She married Edward III Plantagenet King of England, son of Edward II , Plantagenet Of Caernarvon and Isabella Capet Queen of England, after 1369. Alice Perrers died before 25 November 1400 at Upminster, Essex, England.1
     She He [William de Wyndesore] m. apparently after 10 Dec 1374 but beforeApril 1376, Alice Perrers, the notorious Court beauty and mistress ofEdward III. [Complete Peerage XII/1:880]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:879-80.

William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault1,2

M, b. circa 1286, d. 7 June 1337
     William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault married Unknown Mistress at No Marriage.3 William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault was born circa 1280 at Hainault, France.4 He was born circa 1286 at Avesnes, Artois/Pas-de-Calais, France.5 He was the son of John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault and Philippa de Luxembourg. William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault married Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault, daughter of Margaret of Naples, on 23 May 1305 at Chanay, Aisne, Picardy, France.1 William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault died on 7 June 1337 at Valenciennes, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.1,2
     He was count of Holland. William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault was also known as Guillaume 'the Good' d' Avesnes.

Children of William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault and Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, 12 Oct 2002.
  4. [S237] LAYNEJAYNE <, LAYNEJAYNE@@aol.com>, solidgold4 <, solidgold4@@aol.com>, jercty31 < and jercty31@@aol.com>, New England Families to Royalty GEDCOM inported 7 NOV 1999 by LindaJoyce Neely.
  5. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 8 Oct 2002.

Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault

F, b. circa 1291, d. between 7 March 1351 and 1352
     Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault was born circa 1291 at Valois now Oise, Picardy, France. She was the daughter of Margaret of Naples. Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault was born circa 1294 at Valois, France.1,2 She married William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault, son of John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault and Philippa de Luxembourg, on 23 May 1305 at Chanay, Aisne, Picardy, France.3 Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault died in 1342.4 She died between 7 March 1351 and 1352 at Fontenelle, Yonne, Bourgogne, France.3,5
     Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault was also known as Jeanne Avesnes.

Children of Jeanne de Valois Countess of Hainault and William III d' Avesnes Count of Hainault

Citations

  1. [S249] Carolyn & Randy Winch, Home Page of Roger, Carolyn & Randy Winchhtt://edge.net/~gumby/index.htmlfoundend of 1997 by Linda Joyce Neely, Natick,,MA Vital Records pp 247-248.
  2. [S237] LAYNEJAYNE <, LAYNEJAYNE@@aol.com>, solidgold4 <, solidgold4@@aol.com>, jercty31 < and jercty31@@aol.com>, New England Families to Royalty GEDCOM inported 7 NOV 1999 by LindaJoyce Neely.
  3. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  4. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 8 Oct 2002.
  5. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.

Charles I. de Valois

M, b. between 12 March 1269 and 1270, d. 16 December 1325
     Charles I. de Valois was buried at Jacobins, Paris, Seine, France.1 He was born between 12 March 1269 and 1270 at Vincennes, Val-de-Marne/Paris, France.2,3,4 He was the son of Philippe III ['the Bold'] le Hardi and Isabella Princess of Aragon. Charles I. de Valois married an unknown person on 16 August 1290 at Corbeil, Marne, France.5,6 He married Margaret of Naples, daughter of Charles II King of Naples and Marie of Hungary, on 16 August 1290.2 Charles I. de Valois married an unknown person between 8 February 1300 and 1301.4 He married an unknown person on 8 February 1301 at St Cloud, Haute-De-Seine, France.5 He married an unknown person in June 1308 at Poitiers, Vienne, France.3,4 He died on 5 December 1325 at Nogent-le-Roi, Eure-et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France.7,3 He died on 16 December 1325 at Le Perray, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France.4,2
     He was Count of Valois 1285-1325.8

Citations

  1. [S251] Sheila Stewart < and stewart1@@gosympatico.ca>, gedcom downloaded MAY 2002 by Linda Joyce Neely.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Mike Talbot (MTaHT), 12 Jun 1998.
  4. [S236] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Charles Comte de Valois.
  5. [S232] Unknown author, 6 zip files containing Monarchs.ged downloaded end 1999 by Linda Neely.
  6. [S246] Unknown author, Source #11.
  7. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  8. [S249] Carolyn & Randy Winch, Home Page of Roger, Carolyn & Randy Winchhtt://edge.net/~gumby/index.htmlfoundend of 1997 by Linda Joyce Neely, Watertown,,MA VR to 1800, p 32.

Margaret of Naples1,2,3

F, b. circa 1273, d. 31 December 1299
     Margaret of Naples was born circa 1273 at Naples, Italy. She was the daughter of Charles II King of Naples and Marie of Hungary. Margaret of Naples married Charles I. de Valois, son of Philippe III ['the Bold'] le Hardi and Isabella Princess of Aragon, on 16 August 1290.3 Margaret of Naples died in 1294.3 She died on 31 December 1299.2
     Margaret of Naples was also known as Margaret of Valois. Margaret of Naples was also known as Marguerite d' Anjou.

Child of Margaret of Naples

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S236] Unknown author, Leo's Genealogics Website (Leo van de Pas), www.genealogics.org, Marguerite d'Anjou.
  3. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.

Charles II King of Naples1,2

M, b. 1248, d. 6 May 1309
     Charles II King of Naples was born in 1248 at Naples, Italy.2 He married Marie of Hungary in 1270. Charles II King of Naples died on 6 May 1309 at Cassanova near Naples, Italy.1,2

Child of Charles II King of Naples and Marie of Hungary

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.

Marie of Hungary1,2

F, b. circa 1257, d. 25 March 1323
     Marie of Hungary was born circa 1257 at Budapest, Hungary. She married Charles II King of Naples in 1270. Marie of Hungary died on 25 March 1323 at Naples, Italy.1,2

Child of Marie of Hungary and Charles II King of Naples

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.

John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault1,2

M, b. 1247, d. 22 August 1304
     John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault was born in 1247 at Hainault, Flanders, Belgium.3 He was the son of John I d' Avesnes Count of Holland and Adelaide (Aleidis) of Holland. John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault married Philippa de Luxembourg, daughter of Henry II 'The Blonde' Count of Luxembourg and Marguerite de Bar, on 7 December 1270.3 John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault died on 22 August 1304.1,3,2
     John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault was also known as John II Count of Hainault.

Child of John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault and Philippa de Luxembourg

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 8 Oct 2002.

Philippa de Luxembourg1,2

F, b. circa 1255, d. 1311
     Philippa de Luxembourg was born circa 1255 at Luxemburg. She was the daughter of Henry II 'The Blonde' Count of Luxembourg and Marguerite de Bar. Philippa de Luxembourg married John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault, son of John I d' Avesnes Count of Holland and Adelaide (Aleidis) of Holland, on 7 December 1270.3 Philippa de Luxembourg died in 1311.1

Child of Philippa de Luxembourg and John II d' Avesnes , Count of Hainault

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S270] William Henry Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry, 5.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 8 Oct 2002.