Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir1,2

M, b. 1330, d. 28 June 1382
     Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir was born in 1330 at Kingston Lisle, Sparsholt, Berkshire, England.2 He was the son of Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir and Eleanor le Strange. Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir married Margaret Pypard, daughter of William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir and Margery (?), before 1359.3 Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir married Joan widow of John Wynnow after 1375.3 Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir died on 28 June 1382.2
     He Warin de Lisle, Lord Lisle. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY OF LISLE (II)

WARIN (DE LISLE), LORD LISLE, and presumably, according to moderndoctrine, LORD TEYES, son and heir by 1st wife, was aged 30 at hisfather's death. He was already a Knight in October 1359, when he wassetting out for France with Henry, Earl of Lancaster. In July 1360, hisfather having held no lands in chief, the escheator was ordered not tointerfere, and in August Warin had livery, Richard, Earl of Arundel,undertaking to answer should it be found that any lands were held inchief. In December 1363 Warin del Isle was ordered to bestir himself inthe capture of the malefactors who had lately lived by plunder in foreignparts and were now committing outrages in Wiltshire, &c., as he hadhitherto failed in his duty in the matter. In 1364 he was made acommissioner of the peace in Berks, and was appointed on othercommissions later. He was one of the feoffees of Richard, Earl ofArundel, in 1366. He was summoned to Parliament from 6 April 1369 to 24March 1381/2, by writs directed Warino de Insula. In July 1362 he hadprotection on going over seas in the company of the Duke of Lancaster,and at about the same time he was appointed captain and keeper ofPortsmouth. In 1372 he was allowed to appoint attorneys for a year, beingengaged on the King's service abroad as a banneret, with 4 knights, 5esquires, and 10 men-at-arms. On 5 March 1376/7 he had licence tocrenellate his house at Shirburn, co. Oxford. He was still engaged in thewars in France, but in April 1380 was sent on the King's service intoIreland.

He married, 1stly, in or before 1359, Margaret, widow of Robert FitzElys,and daughter and coheir of Sir William PYPARD, by Margery his wife. Shedied 3 August 1375. He married, 2ndly, Joan, widow of John WYNNOW, bywhom he had no issue. Her parentage is unknown. He died 28 June 1382. Hiswidow died 27 April 1392, holding lands in dower from both her husbands.[Complete Peerage VIII:51-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir and Margaret Pypard

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 80-8.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:51-2.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Margaret Pypard1

F, b. circa 1335, d. 3 August 1375
     Margaret Pypard married Robert FitzElys.1 Margaret Pypard was born circa 1335 at Sydenham, Thame, Oxfordshire, England. She was the daughter of William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir and Margery (?) Margaret Pypard married Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir, son of Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir and Eleanor le Strange, before 1359.1 Margaret Pypard died on 3 August 1375 at Kingston Lisle, Sparsholt, Berkshire, England.1
     Margaret Pypard was also known as Margaret Pipard. She He [Warin de Lisle] married, 1stly, in or before 1359, Margaret, widow ofRobert FitzElys, and daughter and coheir of Sir William PYPARD, byMargery his wife. She died 3 August 1375. [Complete Peerage VIII:51-2,(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of Margaret Pypard and Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir1,2

M, b. before 1310, d. 9 June 1360
     Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir was born before 1310 at Kingston Lisle, Sparsholt, Berkshire, England.3 He was the son of Warin de Lisle , of Kingston Lisle, Sir and Alice de Teyes. Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir married Eleanor le Strange, daughter of John 2nd Baron le Strange , of Knockyn, Sir and Iseult (Isolda) (?), before 1330.4 Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir married Elizabeth (?) before 3 July 1354.5 Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir died on 9 June 1360 at Stowe Nine Churches, Daventry, Northamptonshire, England.6
     He On the Barony of de L'Isle [Burke's Peerage]

Meanwhile in 1357 a Gerard de Lisle, second cousin of the Robertmentioned above and grandson of another Gerard who had acquired theBerkshire manor of Kingston Lisle from his mother, was called toParliament by writ. He thus became according to later doctrine Lord(Baron) Lisle [the Barony de Lisle of the aforementioned Robert existeduntil 1428, making two Baronies named the same]. As has been remarkedelsewhere, the absurdity of two peers of Parliament with identical titlesexisting simultaneously is one of the strongest arguments for supposingearly writs of summons were not intended to create heritable titles ofhonour. This 1st Lord Lisle of the 1357 creation also fought at Crecy,as well as in other battles of the Hundred Years War. The 1357 peeragedescended to two sole heiresses in succession, who by a later doctrinewould have been deemed baronesses in their own right. With the death ofthe second sole heiress any barony created by the writ of 1357 would havebeen deemed by later doctrine to have fallen into abeyance. In 1823 adescendant of this second sole heiress, Sir John Shelley Sidney, 1stBaronet, unsuccessfully petitioned the House of Lords to terminate theabeyance in his favour.

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BARONY OF LISLE (I)

GERARD DE LISLE, son and heir, was aged 23 years and more in February1326/7, and 40 and more in 1350. In March 1326/7 the escheator wasordered not to meddle with the lands, as the father held nothing inchief. He was a Knight in 1327. he was summoned for military service inDecember 1334 and March 1334/5; to a Council 20 June 1358, and toParliament 15 December 1357, by writs directed Gerardo de Insula or delIsle, whereby he is held to have become LORD LISLE. In 1333 and 1335 hewas engaged in the Scottish wars, in the latter year under Richard, Earlof Arundel. In 1359 he had a dispute with his mother as to thepresentation to Stowe church, Northants, but admitted that it was not histurn; he also complained of trespass on his park at Stowe. In June 1340he was going beyond seas with the Earl of Arundel, and was engaged, as abanneret, in the French camaign of 1346-1347, fighting at Crécy in theEarl's division. In 1347 he succeeded to his mother's inheritance, and,according to modern doctrine, became LORDTEYES. He made an agreement, 5March 1349/50, to accompany the Earl of Arundel with 30 men-at-arms for100 marks per annum, receiving £100 before leaving England. In September1350 he had licence to make a pilgrimage to Rome, with 7 horses. In 1351he had livery of the manor of Bracken in Kilnwick, part of his mother'sinheritance. In August 1354, as Gerard de Insula, dominus de Stowe, heagreed to the appointment of the Pope as arbitrator in the dispute withFrance. In September 1359 he was again engaged in the French wars.

He married, 1stly, in or before 1330, Eleanor, whose parentage isunknown. She was presumably dead in or before 1347 (a). He married,2ndly, before 3 July 1354, Elizabeth, widow of Edmund (DE ST. JOHN), LORDST. JOHN, of Basing (died a minor, 1347), who held several manors indower. For a fine of £100 he was pardoned for marrying her withoutlicence. He died 9 June 1360, holding the manor of Kingston Lisle ofRobert de Lisle of Rougemont by the service of one knight's fee and apair of gilt spurs or 6d. His widow married Sir Richard PEMBRUGGE, whosurvived her. She died 16 September 1362. [Complete Peerage VIII:50-1,XIV:443, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) When it was reported that Margery, widow of Nicholas de la Beche, hadbeen joined in wedlock to Gerard de Lisle, but had been carried off fromBeaumes Manor, near Reading, by Sir John de Dalton and others. Gerardwas appointed to arrest the marauders, and, fearing bodily harm in theattempt, was authorized to bear arms. This marriage appears to have beenprojected only, for Margery married Dalton.

Child of Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir and Eleanor le Strange

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII: 50-1, XI:327.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:50-1.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:50-51.
  5. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XI:327, VIII:51.
  6. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:50-1, XI:327.

Eleanor le Strange1

F, b. circa 1308, d. before 1347
     Eleanor le Strange was born circa 1308 at Blackmore, Herefordshire, England. She was the daughter of John 2nd Baron le Strange , of Knockyn, Sir and Iseult (Isolda) (?) Eleanor le Strange married Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir, son of Warin de Lisle , of Kingston Lisle, Sir and Alice de Teyes, before 1330.1 Eleanor le Strange died before 1347 at Kingston Lisle, Sparsholt, Berkshire, England.1
     She He [Gerard de Lisle] married, 1stly, in or before 1330, Eleanor, whoseparentage is unknown. She was presumably dead in or before 1347.[Complete Peerage VIII:50-1, XIV:443, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:50-51.

William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir1

M, b. circa 1308
     William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir was born circa 1308 at Sydenham, Thame, Oxfordshire, England.
     William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir was also known as William Pipard , of Sydenham, Sir.

Child of William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir and Margery (?)

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Margery (?)1

F, b. circa 1310
     Margery (?) was born circa 1310 at England.

Child of Margery (?) and William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick1,2

M, b. BEF 16 MAR 1338/39, d. 8 April 1401
     Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick was born BEF 16 MAR 1338/39 at Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England.1,2 He was the son of Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 11th Earl of Warwick and Katherine de Mortimer. Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick was buried at Beauchamp Chapel, St Mary's, Warwickshire, England. He married Margaret Ferrers, daughter of William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Margaret de Ufford, before April 1381.1,2 Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick died on 8 April 1401 at Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England.1,2
     He Thomas de Beauchamp [2nd son, eldest son Guy dspm & vp 28 April 1360],12th Earl of Warwick, KG (1373); born by 16 March 1338/9; HereditarySheriff of Worcs and Pantler at Coronations, knighted 1355, Admiral ofthe Fleet towards the North 1377, Guardian of Richard II c Feb 1379/80,one of the Lords Appellant who overthrew Richard II's advisers 1387-89,arrested on a charge of high treason against Richard II 1397, followingwhich his estates and honours were forfeited, but restored on accessionof Henry IV; married by April 1381 Margaret, daughter of 3rd Lord (Baron)Ferrers (of Groby), and died 8 April 1401. [Burke's Peerage]

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EARLDOM OF WARWICK (XII) 1369

THOMAS (DE BEAUCHAMP), defacto EARL OF WARWICK, also hereditary Sheriffof Worcestershire and Chamberlain of the Exchequer, 2nd but 1st survivingson and heir male, was born before 16 March 1338/9; knighted, with hisbrother Guy, July 1355; was granted for his good service a pension of 100marks, 26 November following; was going to Prussia, with his brotherWilliam, November 1367, and to Brittany, May 1368; and had seisin of hisinheritance as heir male of entail, 7 February 1369/70. He was sent withthe Earl of Suffolk to Cherbourg, July 1370, to escort the King ofNavarre to England; sailed with the King's unsuccessful expedition forthe relief of Rochelle and Thouars, August 1372; nominated K.G. 1373;took part in John of Gaunt's historic but fruitless march from Calais toBordeaux, August-December 1373, and in the descent on Brittany, 1375;Chief Commissioner to enforce the truce with Scotland, 29 January and 29July 1375, and a Commissioner for the same, 6 September 1380. In the'Good Parliament' of 1376 and in those of February and October 1377 hewas a Commissioner appointed by the Lords to act with the Commons forreform. At the Coronation of Richard II, 16 July 1377, he carried thethird sword and exercised his hereditary office of Pantler. He wasappointed Admiral of the fleet towards the North, 5 December 1377;Guardian of the King communi sententia, circa Februaty 1379/80; aCommissioner of retrenchment, 2 March following; and he was going toIreland with the Earl of March April 1380. During the Peasants' Revolt,June 1381, he was with the King in the Tower and was later sent, with SirThomas Percy, to protect St. Albans Abbey. In 1385 he accompanied RichardII on his only expedition into Scotland. On 14 November 1387 the Earls ofGloucester, Warwick and Arundel, having taken up arms, 'appealed' oftreason the King's advisers, the Duke of Ireland (de Vere) and the Earlof Suffolk; and, with the Earl of Derby, they trapped and defeated deVere at Radcot Bridge, 20 December following. In the 'MercilessParliament' that followed, February 1387/8, these Lords Appellant,including Warwick, impeached de Vere and Suffolk and other leaders of theKing's party, some of whom were executed. They further obtained a grantof £20,000 for themselves, 2 June 1388, and, having introduced somereforms, remained in power till May 1389. After some years of retirementand as a result of a law-suit in 1396, he was compelled to hand overGower and Swansea Castle to the Earl of Nottingham, 1 June 1397. Possiblyas a result of this he may have joined in the alleged plot of Gloucesterand Arundel (which was betrayed to Richard Il by Nottingham), for whichhe was arrested in the house of the Bishop of Exeter at Temple Bar on acharge of high treason and committed, 12 July 1397, to the Tower ofLondon and afterwards to Tintagel Castle, Cornwall. At his trial inParliament, 28 September following, he confessed his treason and pleadedguilty, whereby accordingly his honours and estates were forfeited and hehimself banished to the Isle of Man under guard of William (le Scrope),Earl of Wiltshire, who treated him harshly. Being liberated on theaccession of Henry IV, at whose Coronation, 13 October 1399, he bore thethird sword, he was restored in Parliament, 19 November following. Hebecame a member of the Council, before 4 December 1399, accompanied theKing against the rebel Earls, January 1399/1400, and was at Shrewsbury,with the Archbishop of Canterbury and Duke of York, 15 October 1400.

He married, before April 1381, Margaret, daughter of William (FERRERS),3rd LORD FERRERS (of Groby), by his 1st wife, Margaret, sister and (inher issue) coheir of William, 2nd EARL OF SUFFOLK, 3rd daughter of Robert(DE UFFORD), 1st EARL OF SUFFOLK. He died 8 April 1401, aged over 62, andwas buried in St. Mary's, Warwick. M.I. She died 22 January 1406/7 andwas buried with him. M.I. [Complete Peerage XII/2:375-8, (transcribed byDave Utzinger)] Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick was also known as 12th Earl of Warwick , Thomas de Beauchamp.

Child of Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick and Margaret Ferrers

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:375-8.

Margaret Ferrers1,2

F, b. circa 1354, d. between 22 January 1406 and 1407
     Margaret Ferrers was buried at Beauchamp Chapel, St Mary's, Warwickshire, England. She was born circa 1354 at Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England. She was the daughter of William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Margaret de Ufford. Margaret Ferrers married Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick, son of Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 11th Earl of Warwick and Katherine de Mortimer, before April 1381.1,2 Margaret Ferrers died between 22 January 1406 and 1407 at Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England.3,2
     She Margaret, daughter of 3rd Lord (Baron) Ferrers (of Groby). [Burke'sPeerage]

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He [Thomas de Beauchamp] married, before April 1381, Margaret, daughterof William (FERRERS), 3rd LORD FERRERS (of Groby), by his 1st wife,Margaret, sister and (in her issue) coheir of William, 2nd EARL OFSUFFOLK, 3rd daughter of Robert (DE UFFORD), 1st EARL OF SUFFOLK. He died8 April 1401, aged over 62, and was buried in St. Mary's, Warwick. M.I.She died 22 January 1406/7 and was buried with him. M.I. [CompletePeerage XII/2:375-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of Margaret Ferrers and Thomas de Beauchamp , KG, 12th Earl of Warwick

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:375-8.
  3. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.

William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir1,2,3

M, b. between 28 February 1332 and 1333, d. between 8 January 1370 and 1371
     William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir was buried at Priory of Ulverscroft, Leicestershire, England. He was born between 28 February 1332 and 1333 at Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire, England.1,3 He was the son of Henry 2nd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Isabel de Verdun. William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir married Margaret de Ufford, daughter of Robert III de Ufford , KG, 1st Earl of Suffolk and Margaret de Norwich, before 25 April 1344.3 William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir married Margaret de Ufford, daughter of Robert III de Ufford , KG, 1st Earl of Suffolk and Margaret de Norwich, before 25 April 1354.1 William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir married Margaret de Percy, daughter of Henry 2nd Baron de Percy KG, MP, and Idoine de Clifford , Lady Alnwick, before 25 May 1368.3 William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir died between 8 January 1370 and 1371 at Stebbing, Dunmow, Essex, England.1,3
     He William Ferrers, Knight, b. Newbold Verdon, co. Leicester, 28 Feb 1332/3,d. 8 Jan 1370/1, 3rd Baron Ferrers of Groby; knighted 6 May 1351; willproved 19 July 1372; m. (1) bef. 25 Apr 1354, Margaret de Ufford,daughter of Robert de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, and Margaret de Norwich,daughter of Sir Walter de Norwich. [Ancestral Roots]

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BARONY OF FERRERS OF GROBY (III) 1343

WILLIAM (DE FERRERS), LORD FERRERS, son and heir, born and baptized atNewbold Verdon, co. Leicester, On 17 January 1344/5, the King, with theassent of the Council, granted him £50 a year during his minority, butafterwards gave him the manors of Stoke-upon-Tern, Wootton, and Hethe,and the moiety of Ludlow, to hold, instead of the £50, 22 October 1349.The Queen granted him all the lands late of his father which were in hercustody, 6 May 1351: he was then a knight. The King took his homage, andhe had livery of his parents' lands in England and Ireland, 17 March1353/4. He accompanied the Prince of Wales to Gascony in September 1355,being in the retinue of the Earl of Suffolk, and was at the battle ofPoitiers. In May 1358 he exchanged his moiety of Ludlow with Roger deMortemer, Earl of March, for the manor of Long Crendon, Bucks. He waswith the King in the invasion of France, October 1359 to 1360, being inthe retinue of the Duke of Lancaster. On 23 July 1360 he was exoneratedfrom any levy on his lands in Ireland for the defence of that country, ashe had attended the King throughout the last war with France, at greatcost to himself. On 1 December 1360 he obtained possession of the manorand advowson of Lutterworth and the manor of Flecknoe, and on 6 October1361 he had livery of 4 1/2 knights' fees, all of which Elizabeth deBurgh, his grandmother, had held in dower. He was summoned to Parliamentfrom 15 March 1353 to 6 April 1369, by writs directed Willelmo deFerariis. In September 1364, he sold to Robert Holywode the manors ofCoolock, co. Dublin, Duleek and Kells, co. Meath, Dundalk, Dundogan, andThe Hagard, co. Uriel [Oirghialla, i.e., Louth], and all his lands andtenements in Ireland---except the manor of Loughsewdy [co. Meath] withthe knights' fees, advowsons, homages, services, rents, and reversions.He was with the Duke of Lancaster in his raid into Picardy and Caux inJuly 1369.

He married, 1stly, before 25 April 1344, Margaret, sister and in herissue coheir of William, EARL OF SUFFOLK, and 3rd daughter of Robert(D'UFFORD), EARL OF SUFFOLK, by Margaret, great-aunt and, in her issue,heir of Sir John DE NORWICH, of Sculthorpe, Norfolk, Bramfield andMellis, Suffolk, &c., and daughter of Sir Walter DE NORWICH, of the same,sometime Treasurer and Chief Baron of the Exchequer, great-grandfather ofthe said John. He married, 2ndly, before 25 May 1368, Margaret, widow ofSir Robert D'UMFRAMVILLE, of Pallethorp, and Hessle, co. York, andStallingborough, co. Lincoln (son and heir apparent of Gilbert, EARL OFANGUS), who died v.p. and s.p., and daughter of Sir Henry DE PERCY, ofAlnwick, Northumberland [LORD PERCY], by Idoine or Imaine, daughter ofSir Robert DE CLIFFORD, Lord of Westmorland [LORD CLIFFORD]. He died atStebbing, in the night, 8 January 1370/1, aged 37. His widow's dower wasordered to be assigned, 20 May 1371, and, on 20 November following, shehad livery of the knights' fees and advowsons of her dower, which wereassigned to her by the King. She died at Gyng (now Buttsbury), Essex, inthe night, 2 September 1375, and was bur. (presumably) in the Church ofthe Friars Preachers at Chelmsford. [Complete Peerage V:348-51,(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Margaret de Ufford

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 100-7.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, V:348-51.

Margaret de Ufford1,2,3

F, b. circa 1333, d. before 1368
     Margaret de Ufford was born circa 1333 at Eresby, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. She was the daughter of Robert III de Ufford , KG, 1st Earl of Suffolk and Margaret de Norwich. Margaret de Ufford married William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir, son of Henry 2nd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Isabel de Verdun, before 25 April 1344.3 Margaret de Ufford married William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir, son of Henry 2nd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir and Isabel de Verdun, before 25 April 1354.1 Margaret de Ufford died before 1368 at Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England.
     She William Ferrersm; m. (1) bef. 25 Apr 1354, Margaret de Ufford, daughterof Robert de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, and Margaret de Norwich, daughterof Sir Walter de Norwich. [Ancestral Roots]

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He [William de Ferrers] married, 1stly, before 25 April 1344, Margaret,sister and in her issue coheir of William, EARL OF SUFFOLK, and 3rddaughter of Robert (D'UFFORD), EARL OF SUFFOLK, by Margaret, great-auntand, in her issue, heir of Sir John DE NORWICH, of Sculthorpe, Norfolk,Bramfield and Mellis, Suffolk, &c., and daughter of Sir Walter DENORWICH, of the same, sometime Treasurer and Chief Baron of theExchequer, great-grandfather of the said John. [Complete PeerageV:348-51, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of Margaret de Ufford and William 3rd Baron Ferrers , of Groby, Sir

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 100-7.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, V:348-51.

Thomas 8th Baron de Ros , of Helmsley, Sir1,2

M, b. 26 September 1406, d. 18 August 1430
     Thomas 8th Baron de Ros , of Helmsley, Sir married Eleanor Beauchamp, daughter of Richard de Beauchamp , KG, 13th Earl of Warwick and Elizabeth Baroness de Berkeley , & Lisle & Teye.1 Thomas 8th Baron de Ros , of Helmsley, Sir was born on 26 September 1406 at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England.2 He died on 18 August 1430 at France at age 23.2
     He Thomas de Ros, 8th Lord (Baron) de Ros of Helmsley, PC (1429); [born] 26Sep 1406; knighted 1426; married Eleanor (married 2nd by 7 March 1437/8Edmund Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset), daughter and coheir of RichardBeauchamp, Earl of Warwick, and died 28 Aug 1430. [Burke's Peerage]

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 80-10.
  2. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Walter Rokesley , of Walthamstow, Esq1

M, b. circa 1406
     Walter Rokesley , of Walthamstow, Esq was born circa 1406 at Walthamstow, Essex, England. He married Eleanor Beauchamp, daughter of Richard de Beauchamp , KG, 13th Earl of Warwick and Elizabeth Baroness de Berkeley , & Lisle & Teye, after 1455.1

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 80-10.

Hawise le Fleming1

F, b. circa 1210, d. before 1243
     Hawise le Fleming was born circa 1210 at Aldingham, Lancashire/Cumbria, England. She married Reynold II de Mohun , Lord of Dunster, Sir before 1240. Hawise le Fleming died before 1243.
     She Hawise, daughter and heir of William Fleming. [Burke's Peerage]

Note: Hawise may have been an heiress, but she did not inherit Aldingham,which passed to William's brother Michael.

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Alix daughter of John de Joinville

F, b. circa 1285
     Alix daughter of John de Joinville was born circa 1285 at England. She married Henry Plantagenet 3rd Earl of Lancaster, MP, son of Edmund 'Crouchback' PLANTAGENET and Blanche d' Artois , Queen of Navarre, after 1322.1

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 4-6.

Robert 2nd Baron de Welles , Sir1,2

M, b. between 1 January 1296 and 1297, d. before 29 August 1320
     Robert 2nd Baron de Welles , Sir was born between 1 January 1296 and 1297 at Well, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.2 He married Maud de Clare, daughter of Thomas de Clare , Lord of Thomond, Gov London and Juliane FitzMaurice, before 16 December 1315.1 Robert 2nd Baron de Welles , Sir died before 29 August 1320; (dsp.)2
     He 2nd Lord (Baron) Welles of the 1299 creation. [Burke's Peerage]

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BARONY OF WELLES (II)

ROBERT (DE WELLE), LORD WELLES, son and heir, was born 1 January 1296/7at Blatherwycke and baptised in the church of the Holy Trinity there. Hesucceeded his grandmother, Isabel [de Periton, wife of Robert de Welle],shortly before 5 January 1314/5; was given seisin of his lands, 9February 1318/9; was summoned against the Scots, 1319; and served at thesiege of Berwick, August-September 1319. He died s.p. shortly before 29August 1320, aged 23. [Complete Peerage XII/2:440, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:440.

Joan (?)1,2

F, b. circa 1220, d. after 1261
     Joan (?) was born circa 1220 at England. She married Robert de Stafford , Sir after 1253.2,1 Joan (?) died after 1261.1
     She Robert de Stafford m. 2ndly, Joan. He died before 4 June 1261. Joansurvived him. [Complete Peerage XII/1:171-2, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/1:171-2.
  2. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.

Margaret de Burgh1,2

F, b. 1222, d. November 1237
     Margaret de Burgh married Richard de Clare , Earl Gloucester & Hertford.2 Margaret de Burgh was born in 1222 at Kent, England. She died in November 1237 at Dover, Kent, England.2
     She By his 3rd wife, Margaret of Scotland, he [Hubert de Burgh] had adaughter Margaret, who married Richard de Clare, Earl of Gloucester. Shedvp. at Dover, and endowed it with the manors of Eastbridge andHonychild. [Complete Peerage VII:142 note (a)]

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He [Richard de Clare] m. 1stly, Margaret, daughter of Hubert de Burgh,Earl of Kent. She d. in Nov 1237, her body resting a night at St. Albanson the way to burial. [Complete Peerage V:696-702]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VII:144 note (a).
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, V:696-702.

Unknown First Wife1

F, b. circa 1225
     Unknown First Wife married Hugh 1st Baron le Despenser , Sir. Unknown First Wife was born circa 1225.

Child of Unknown First Wife and Hugh 1st Baron le Despenser , Sir

Citations

  1. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, John Ravilious (Therav3), 21 Jan 2003.

Elizabeth (?)1

F, b. circa 1332, d. BET 14 AND 16 SEP 1362
     Elizabeth (?) died BET 14 AND 16 SEP 1362.1 She married an unknown person.2 She was born circa 1332 at England. She married Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir, son of Warin de Lisle , of Kingston Lisle, Sir and Alice de Teyes, before 3 July 1354.1 Elizabeth (?) married an unknown person after 1360.2
     She Edmund de St. John, married Elizabeth ----; and died at Calais 18 August1347. His widow, who had writ for dower 15 October, married, 2ndly(without the King's licence), before 3 July 1354, as his 2nd wife, Gerard(DE LISLE), LORD LISLE of Kingston Lisle, who died 9 June 1360. Shemarried, 3rdly, Sir Richard PEMBRUGGE (who survived her), and died 14-16September 1362. [Complete Peerage XI:327, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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He [Gerard de Lisle] married, 2ndly, before 3 July 1354, Elizabeth, widowof Edmund (DE ST. JOHN), LORD ST. JOHN, of Basing (died a minor, 1347),who held several manors in dower. For a fine of £100 he was pardoned formarrying her without licence. He died 9 June 1360, holding the manor ofKingston Lisle of Robert de Lisle of Rougemont by the service of oneknight's fee and a pair of gilt spurs or 6d. His widow married SirRichard PEMBRUGGE, who survived her. She died 16 September 1362.[Complete Peerage VIII:50-1, XIV:443, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XI:327, VIII:51.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XI:327.

Benard Ezy , Sire d'Albert1

M, b. circa 1262, d. before 24 May 1281
     Benard Ezy , Sire d'Albert married Jeanne (JoanJehanne) de Lusignan, daughter of Hugh XII de Lusignan , Count AngoulemeLa March and Jeanne de Fougeres.1 Benard Ezy , Sire d'Albert was born circa 1262 at Albert, Artois/Pas-de-Calais, France. He died before 24 May 1281.1

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 12-5.

Roger Bigod , 5th Earl of Norfolk1,2

M, b. circa 1245, d. December 1306
     Roger Bigod , 5th Earl of Norfolk was born circa 1245 at Thetford, Norfolk, England. He married Aline Basset , Countess of Norfolk after 1265.1,2 Roger Bigod , 5th Earl of Norfolk died in December 1306 at Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England.
     He Th 5th and last Earl of Norfolk of this 1140/1 or 1189 creation, anotherRoger (le) Bigod, also served as Marshal at Edward I's coronation but wasstripped of the office by the King on refusing to take an army to Gasconyin early 1297. After a long-standing dispute with the King over theconfirmation of his charters and Magna Charta itself he in 1302surrendered the Earldom for regrant together with a life interest inadditional territorial possessions bringing him an annual income of 1000pounds (over 24 million in late 1990 pounds). On his dying childless inlate 1306 the Earldom and Marshalcy reverted to the Crown, whereas if hehad not made the surrender four years earlier the former at any ratewould have passed to his brother. [Burke's Peerage, on 'Norfolk, othercreations', p. 2090]

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Roger was the hero of a famous altercation with Edward I in 1297, whocommanded him to serve against the King of France in Gascony, whileEdward went to Flanders. The earl asserted that by the tenure of hislands he was only compelled to serve across the seas in the company ofthe king himself, whereupon Edward said, 'By God, earl, you shall eithergo or hang,' to which Bigod replied, 'By the same oath, O king, I willneither go nor hang.' The earl gained his point, and after Edward leftfor France, he and Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, prevented thecollection of an aid for the war and forced Edward to confirm thecharters in this year and again in 1301. Roger died without issue. Histitle became extinct and reverted to the crown. The Bigods held thehereditary office of steward (dapifer) of the royal household, and theirchief castle was at Framlingham in Suffolk. (Encyclopædia Britannica,1961 ed, Vol. 3, pages 556/557, Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk.)

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Roger Bigod, 5th Earl of Norfolk, and 2nd earl marshal of this family,took a distinguished part in the wars of King Edward I., havingpreviously, however, in conjunction with the Earl of Hereford, compelledeven that resolute monarch to ratify the Great Charter and Charter of theForest. His lordship m. 1st, Aliva, dau. and heiress of Phillip, LordBasset, and widow of Hugh Despencer, slain at Evesham, and 2ndly, Joane,dau. of John de Avenne, Earl of Bayonne, but had no issue by either. Inthe 29th of Edward I. the earl constituted that monarch his heir, andsurrendered into his hands the marshal's rod, upon condition that itshould be returned in the event of his having children, and that heshould receive £1,000 prompt, and £1,000 a year for life; in consequenceof which surrender his lordship was recreated Earl of Norfolk in 1302,with remainder to his heirs male by his 1st wife, but dying withoutissue, as stated above, in five years afterwards, the Earldom became(according to the surrender) extinct in the Bigod family, although hislordship left a brother, John Bigod, his heir-at-law, whose right seemsto have been annihilated in this very unjust and extraordinary manner,and so completely destroyed that he did not even inherit any of the greatestates of his ancestors. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant,Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p.53, Bigod, Earls of Norfolk]

Citations

  1. [S233] Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.

Walter de Balun , of Much Marcle & Eastington1,2

M, b. circa 1225, d. 1288
     Walter de Balun , of Much Marcle & Eastington married Isolde (Iseult) de Mortimer, daughter of Hugh de Mortimer , of Chelmarsh and Agatha de Ferrers.1,2 Walter de Balun , of Much Marcle & Eastington was born circa 1225 at Much Marcle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, England.3 He died in 1288 at Eastington, Wheatenhurst, Gloucestershire, England.4

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VI:190.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, IX:283 note (m), XIV:488.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Douglas Richardson, 22 Oct 2002.
  4. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Paul C. Reed (reedpcgen), 24 Oct 2002.

Robert FitzElys1

M, b. circa 1330, d. before 1359
     Robert FitzElys married Margaret Pypard, daughter of William Pypard , of Sydenahm, Sir and Margery (?).1 Robert FitzElys was born circa 1330 at England. He died before 1359.1

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Joan widow of John Wynnow1

F, b. circa 1335, d. 27 April 1392
     Joan widow of John Wynnow was born circa 1335 at England. She married Warin 2nd Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, KG, Sir, son of Gerard 1st Baron de Lisle , of Kingston, Sir and Eleanor le Strange, after 1375.1 Joan widow of John Wynnow died on 27 April 1392.1
     She He [Warin de Lisle] married, 2ndly, Joan, widow of John WYNNOW, by whomhe had no issue. Her parentage is unknown. He died 28 June 1382. Hiswidow died 27 April 1392, holding lands in dower from both her husbands.[Complete Peerage VIII:51-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, VIII:52.

Walter Blount , KG, Baron Mountjoy, Sir1,2,3

M, b. circa 1420, d. 1 August 1474
     Walter Blount , KG, Baron Mountjoy, Sir was buried at Grey Friars, London, Middlesex, England. He was born circa 1420 at Barton Blount, Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England.3 He married an unknown person before 1442.4 He married Anne Neville, daughter of Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl Westmorland and Joan Swynford de Beaufort, before 25 November 1467.4,5 Walter Blount , KG, Baron Mountjoy, Sir died on 1 August 1474; (died of wounds.)3
     He BARONY OF MOUNTJOY (I) 1465

WALTER BLOUNT, son and heir, born circa 1420, 'in the hundred ofAppletree' [co. Derby], probably at Barton Blount. He was a Knight of theShire for Derby 1447 and later to 1460. In 1449 he was bailiff for lifeof the wapentakes of Morleston and Litchurch, co. Derby, and J.P. (exceptfrom 1456-60). During the disturbances at the time of the King's insanityin 1454, he was under suspicion of taking part in plots, and indeed hebecame a Yorkist; but he was pardoned in December 1459, though deprivedof his bailiwick. On 22 October 1460, a few days after Richard, Duke ofYork, asserted his title to the Crown and was in power, Blount was madetreasurer of Calais, being continued in that office in 1461, and K.B.before the Coronation of Edward IV, 4 March 1460/1. In October of thatyear he was laying siege to the castle of Hammes, near Calais, and inJuly 1463 was a member of the embassy sent to meet the commissioners ofthe Duke of Burgundy at St. Omer. He was made Treasurer of England, 24November 1464, and held the office for a little more than 15 months. On2O June 1465 he was created LORD MOUNTJOY (Dominus de Mountjoy), to himand the heirs male of his body, witb a fee of 20 marks, part from thetown of Thurvaston and part from the profits of Derbyshire and Notts. InAugust 1467 he was one of the King's courtiers present in the inn of theAichbishop of York when he surrendered the Great Seal to Edward IV. In1468 he was allowed to ship wool free of customs in consideration of thelarge sum of money then due to him; and in the same year entered intoarticles to serve the King as Captain of the Army, with 60 men-at-armsand 2,940 archers, in his proposed expedition against France in aid ofthe Duke of Brittany, but the design being abandoned, he was againretained to serve with 1,000 men, 60 being men-at-arms, and shortlybefore April 1469 to serve at sea. When Edward IV was a prisoner in thehands of Warwick in August and September 1469, Mountjoy apparently waswith him, for he returned to London with the King in October. In April1470 he and the Earl of Wiltshire were empowered to receive thesubmission of rebels who had taken part in the Lincolnshire revolt inMarch. There does not appear to be any record of the part he playedduring the short restoration (October 1470,to April 1471) of Henry VI,but his son William died of wounds received at the battle of Barnet, 14April 1471, fighting for Edward IV. On 3 July 1471 Mountjoy took the oathof fidelity to the King's infant son Edward (born 4 November 1470) on hiscreation as Prince of Wales; and on 24 April 1472 he was nominated K.G.In February 1472/3 he was a commissioner to inquire as to piraticalattacks on Portuguese vessels, and in July was one of the King's Councilpresent at the delivery of the Great Seat to Edward IV in the refectoryof the Franciscan house at Stamford.

He married, 1stly, in or before 1442, Ellen, daughter of Sir John BYRON,of Clayton, near Manchester. She was buried at Elvaston. He married,2ndly, before 25 November 1467, Anne, widow of Humphrey (STAFFORD), DUKEOF BUCKINGHAM (died 1460), and daughter of Ralph (NEVILLE), EARL OFWESTMORLAND, by Joan DE BEAUFORT, legitimated da. of John of Gaunt. Hedied 1 August 1474, and was buried in the chapel of the Apostles in theChurch of the Grey Friars, London. His widow, by whom he had no issue,and who continued to be known as Duchess of Buckingham, had dowerassigned 11 March 1474/5. She died 20 September 1480, and was buried atPleshey, Essex. [Complete Peerage IX:334-6, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S239] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 88-12.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, IX:334-6.
  4. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, IX:336.
  5. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, II:388-9.

Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales1,2,3,4,5

F, b. circa 1207, d. 1251
     Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales was born circa 1207 at Caemarvonshire, Wales. She married Reginald de Braose , 13th Lord of Abergavenny circa 1215.2 Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales married Ralph de Mortimer , Lord of Wigmore in 1230.1,2,5 Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales died in 1251 at Windsor, Berkshire, England.1,2,5
     She He [William de Briouze] m. 2ndly, 1215, Gwladus Du, daughter of Llewelynap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales, by his 2nd wife Joan, illegitimatedaughter of King John. He d. between 5 May 1227 and 9 June 1228. Hiswidow m. 2ndly, Ralph de Mortimer, of Wigmore, who d. 6 Aug 1246, and wasburied at Wigmore Abbey. She d. at Windsor in 1251. [Complete PeerageI:22]

He [Ralph de Mortimer] married, in 1230, Gladys (Gladusa) Duy, orDark-eyed, daughter of Llewelyn AP JORWORTH, by his 2nd wife, Joan(illegitimate daughter of KiNG JOHN), and widow of Reynold DE BRAOSE[died June 1228). He died 6 August 1246, and was buried at Wigmore. Hiswidow died in 1251. [Complete Peerage IX:275-6, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

NOTE: The identity of Gwladus's mother is still a matter of debate. Thereis no clear contemporary evidence that her mother was Joan, and adaughter of Llewelyn and Joan could not have been aged more than about 9in 1215. The only direct statements appear to come some centuries later.One strand of the later tradition does identify Gwladus's mother as Joan,but another says she was Llewelyn's mistress Tangwystl.

[This question has been discussed by - among many others - StewartBaldwin, Rosie Bevan, Ken Finton, Todd Farmerie, John P. Ravilious, PaulReed, Douglas Richardson, Henry Sutliff, Nat Taylor and Brad Verity.][Some Corrections and Additions to CP]

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Let me make one final general observation. There was a definite andtimely reason that Reginald de Broase married Gwladys Ddu in 1215. Hisbrother Giles, Bishop of Hereford, rebelled as soon as he received aroyal grant of 'his' patrimony and joined Llywelyn (as leader of theWelsh forces) in general rebellion against John (remember that this wasalso about the time the North of England, etc., rebelled against John).Reginald immediately joined his brother in marching on their patrimony inthe Marches to secure it by force. To cement their alliance (Giles beinga bishop and all), Reginald was married to a daughter of PrinceLlywelyn. Her name happened to be Gwladys, the dark eyed.

I would find it EXTRAORDINARILY coincidental if Gwladys just happened tobe BARELY age twelve in 1215, when it was found expedient to marry her toReginald. He was older, already experienced in the art of war and theability to lead men. His elder deceased brother William was alreadyfather of four sons held as hostages by King John.

I would be utterly amazed if we found that Gwladys was aged twelve in1215. The cause of their marriage was not (as far as we know) aprearranged marriage contract that happened to coincide with politicalexpediency--the marriage was a RESULT of the political events thatoccurred in 1215.

After Reginald de Braose betrayed Llywelyn and became King John's man in1217 [to give homage, one had to be in the actual presence of the King],and his nephew John de Braose was released in 1218, Llywelyn found aready ally in the younger John, who was attempting to get his rightfulinheritance from Reginald (who was in possession of most of it), in 1218,Llywelyn, out of political expediency, married his daughter Margared tothis John.

Thus, if the marriage between Gwladys and Reginald was the result ofpolitical events, and they had not been heatedly awaiting her birthday sothat they could be wed in a full and legal manner that would bepermanent--rather than something that could be easily broken (or at leastbroken with some effort and complicity)--I would conclude it is mostlikely that Gwladys was actually older than twelve years old in 1215.Does that seem reasonable? [Paul C Reed, 30 Nov 2001,soc.genealogy.medieval] Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales was also known as Gwladys Ddu.

Children of Gwladys 'Ddu' verch Llewelyn , Princess of Wales and Ralph de Mortimer , Lord of Wigmore

Citations

  1. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, I:22.
  3. [S245] Unknown author, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml, I:22.
  4. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Douglas Richardson, 15 Dec 2002.
  5. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, IX:275-6.

Blanche Princess of Navarre1

F, b. circa 1220, d. 12 August 1283
     Blanche Princess of Navarre was born circa 1220 at Pamplona, Navarre, Spain.2 She married John I Duke de Brittany , Earl of Richmond between 16 January 1235 and 1236 at Chateau-Thierry, Picardy, France.1 Blanche Princess of Navarre died on 12 August 1283 at Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, Pays-de-la-Loire, France.1 She was buried on 14 August 1283 at Abbey of Notre Dame de la Joie, Hennebont, France.
     She He [John de Bretagne] married, 16 January 1235/6, at Château-Thierry,Blanche, daughter of Theobald, KING OF NAVARRE, COUNT OF CHAMPAGNE ANDBRIE, by his 2nd wife, Agnes DE BEAUJEU. She died 12, and was buried 14August 1283, in the abbey of Nôtre Dame de la Joie, near Hennebont. Johndied probably 8 October 1285, and was buried in the abbey of Nôtre Damede Prières. [Complete Peerage X:809-11, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Child of Blanche Princess of Navarre and John I Duke de Brittany , Earl of Richmond

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, X:810-1.
  2. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Mike Talbot (MTaHT), 12 Jun 1998.

Joan (?)1

F, b. circa 1250, d. after 18 November 1307
     Joan (?) was born circa 1250 at England. She married Robert I Peyton de Ufford , Justiciar Ireland before 1286.1 Joan (?) died after 18 November 1307.2
     She He [Robert de Ufford] married, 2ndly, before 1286-87, Joan. He diedshortly before 9 September 1298. His widow was living, 18 November 1307.[Complete Peerage XII/2:148-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:149.
  2. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/1:149.

Nicholas de Tregoz , of Tolleshunt D'Arcy1,2,3

M, b. circa 1238, d. before 2 June 1279
     Nicholas de Tregoz , of Tolleshunt D'Arcy married Eve (Eva) Pecche.1 Nicholas de Tregoz , of Tolleshunt D'Arcy was born circa 1238 at Billingford, Norfolk, England. He died before 2 June 1279 at Tolleshunt d'Arcy, Maldon, Essex, England.1
     He The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 26 Apr 1998, by DaveUtzinger:

From: UTZ (UTZ AT aol.com)
Subject: TREGOZE, part 2
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/04/26

Nicholas Tregoze, heir to his brother. This person married Eva -- (whosurvived him); and before 3rd Edw. I. (1274), by the description of'Nicholas, son and heir of Geoffry Tregoze,' be enfeoffed one RobertBurnell, of Billingford Manor, co. Norfolk, and sold lands there to otherpersons. He then however held one fee in Tolleshunte, in Essex, and hadassize of bread and ale there; but 'the Hundredors (Inq. Rot. Hund.) knewnot by what warrant.' Nicholas Tregoze died s. p. before or in 7th Edw.I. (1278-9), for in that year Richard de Holebrooke was commanded toseize for the King the manors of Tolleshunte and Blunteshall, which hadbeen his (Nicholas's), and which be had held in capite. Of this NicholasTregoze, we also find the following mention in the Hundred Rolls ofEssex, 2nd Edw. I. 'They (the Hundredors of Witham) say, that Roger deChaundeford took five silver marks unjustly of Roger Fitz-John, whomNicholas Tregoz had unjustly imprisoned, nor could he be liberated, evenby the King's command, until he had made the said satisfaction to thesaid Roger de Cbatmdeford.'

1. Lucy Tregoze, married to ------ de Wood, and had issue John de Wood.
2, Joan Tregoze, wife of ------ de Burnham and mother of James deBurnham, her son and heir.
3. Hawisia, wife of [William] Gernoun, by whom she had a son John Gernoun.

After Nicholas Tregoze's death, these three persons, John Wood, JamesBurnham, and John Gernoun, had a contest with one Hugh Crepinge, for themanors of Tolleshunte-Tregoze and BIuneshall in Essex, they claiming ascoheirs at law of the said Nicholas in right of their respective mothers,his sisters, and he, of Nicholas' grant to him. The contest wasdetermined in favour of the coheirs, and by inquisition taken before theescheator of Essex in Trinity Term 21 Edw. I. they were ordered to paytheir relief, and do homage to the King for the same. And it wasdeclared that Hugh Crepping was never seised of the said lands, becauseEva, wife of Nicholas Tregoze survived her husband. Thus, ended thisbranch of the family. [The Topographer and Genealogist, Volume II, 1853]

Citations

  1. [S269] G. E Cokayne, Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, XII/2:150.
  2. [S234] Frederick Lewis Weis additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition.
  3. [S235] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, online google.com, Dave Utzinger (UTZ), 26 Apr 1998.

Richard de St. Liz , of Warkworth, Sir

M, b. circa 1246
     Richard de St. Liz , of Warkworth, Sir was born circa 1246 at Warkworth, Banbury, Northamptonshire, England. He was the son of Simon VI de St. Liz , of Warkworth, Sir and Anne Bulistra.

Child of Richard de St. Liz , of Warkworth, Sir and Mathilda (?)